[no, okay, jotaro probably wouldn't do that, he was legitimately worried about waking the baby up so he cares for her wellbeing and staying with parents would have been for the best, so. that's not what this is.]
I guess I haven't heard of someone who knows more about them than you. Should be good for her.
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You know... I can turn into an otter. If you need, like, an example to show her, as she grows.
It's a long story. But it's supposed to be good for both of us.
[One more thing that's depending on him that he'll have to care about himself to care for, after all. If he goes and gets himself in trouble, where will she be?]
...Okay. This is an honest question and not an asshole one. Are you offering because you actually care about her having that, or are you being manipulative under the cover of helping out?
[The weak sheepishness is quickly replaced by a sigh.]
Look, I...know you hate it when I do that. But I don't really know how else to be, and it's even worse around you. [Because he wouldn't accept her as easily. Smart, really.] And... I dunno. I miss Hazel. Playing with her.
...You'll hurt someone you care about someday, if you're not careful about that. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying it's easy to get in over your head with it, and think the whole time that what you're doing is right.
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It can be both. Just don't let it get out of hand, is all I'm sayi— suggesting, I guess.
[She perks up a little, smile hesitant but there.]
More than fair.
[nnnnnn okay]
...I already worry about it, you know. Giorno a little less -- [They were so similar in that way, after all.] -- but. When you talked to me about this time that first time? I thought... I thought it would really hurt Kakyoin, if he thought it was just me being...the me you know.
The me who gets her shit called out on and doesn't bother to deny it because it's mostly true anyway. The one who doesn't find a way to phrase things because she thinks it'll sound better one way or the other.
...Maybe. [And she doesn't even want to admit this has crossed her mind because what does that say about her -- ] But he's also so worried about people meeting Hierophant, if they'll like him. So when they do, he's...more open. [...] I do like Hierophant, by the way. And Kakyoin. He's a really great guy.
So in other words, you're interested in people's Stands, and Kakyoin's easy to flatter just by liking his Hierophant.
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Kakyoin doesn't need me to protect him. Even if I thought there was going to be a problem, that's something I'd have to take up with him, not go behind his back to settle with you.
Just don't upset him. I can't promise I'll be this calm if you make a mistake and scream something at him like you screamed at me.
I won't. I mean -- [Maybe she shouldn't make any promises there. She wouldn't have guessed she'd come away from that last conversation with Jotaro in a panic, and the topic of Kakyoin finding a way back home was still a shaky one.] I'll try not to. I just wanted you to know, I guess, and to let you know that it isn't what's happening. He needs friends, but I genuinely want to be one to him, not just use that to get close to his Stand.
I know everything Gold Experience can do, and I...saw a bunch of that. In the mirrors. Kakyoin and I discussed some strategy stuff, and how Hierophant's always been there. I don't know too much about Sticky Fingers and Sex Pistols, but... I got to see them. Hold them, and stuff. Oh! And there are these new guys in the city that have Stands -- I know what they can do. Haven't tried bringing up the whole "hey, guess what super cool trick you can do for ghosts like me" just yet. I accidentally freaked them out.
So in all the time you've been hunting around gunning for people's Stands, have you ever actually asked anybody what we do with them? You don't really think they're just toys we have for fun and games and cool tricks, do you?
[nnnnnope, we are not talking about the stupid shit we did after just getting done talking about different stupid shit we did.]
I'm...not an idiot, Jotaro. Even if Bruno didn't tell me why you shouldn't really show them off, do you really think I could still think that? At least three of you have done some kind of healing. You don't just discover that because it's a toy. I've heard about the kind of people you're up against back home, I've...seen for myself what Gold Experience can do.
...I think it makes them happy, though. To get to use them in a way that doesn't matter, that just...makes someone else happy.
Fine, I'll say it frankly. You're really damn lucky you didn't meet me the way you're apparently meeting a lot of other people, because from the way it sounds, if you had I would've killed you.
Don't bullshit me with some excuse about how you're already a ghost and try to make light of this. You have no idea what someone's been through, they're in a new and weird and disorienting place for what, a couple days? Maybe a couple of hours? And all of a sudden you're what they have to deal with, and now apparently "accidentally freaking people out" wasn't just a fluke when it was me.
They forgave you already? Probably. I'm not so sure about the forgetting.
[She flinches -- not because he's angry but because he's right.]
...Fine, so I am an idiot.
[She could also pick apart words and say that she'd said the two would want to forget, not that they had, but... There's no point. He'd just say she was running from the issue again. In fact, just about anything she thinks to follow that up with could be twisted to be that way, so instead her lips just flatten to a thin, frustrated line.]
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Oh my god, you're... [something, that was for sure.
But anyway...] Where'd you find her? Was she orphaned somewhere?
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[Which is technically true, with a lot of important parts left out.]
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I guess I haven't heard of someone who knows more about them than you. Should be good for her.
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You know... I can turn into an otter. If you need, like, an example to show her, as she grows.
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[One more thing that's depending on him that he'll have to care about himself to care for, after all. If he goes and gets himself in trouble, where will she be?]
...Okay. This is an honest question and not an asshole one. Are you offering because you actually care about her having that, or are you being manipulative under the cover of helping out?
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[The weak sheepishness is quickly replaced by a sigh.]
Look, I...know you hate it when I do that. But I don't really know how else to be, and it's even worse around you. [Because he wouldn't accept her as easily. Smart, really.] And... I dunno. I miss Hazel. Playing with her.
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It can be both. Just don't let it get out of hand, is all I'm sayi— suggesting, I guess.
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[She'll take that into consideration, then.
And struggle eternally because after so long, how do you not manipulate people?]
So... The verdict on the ottering... Is that out of hand?
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Is that fair?
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More than fair.
[nnnnnn okay]
...I already worry about it, you know. Giorno a little less -- [They were so similar in that way, after all.] -- but. When you talked to me about this time that first time? I thought... I thought it would really hurt Kakyoin, if he thought it was just me being...the me you know.
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Kakyoin's pretty hard to deceive. Especially when it comes to something like people who are manipulative.
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...Maybe. [And she doesn't even want to admit this has crossed her mind because what does that say about her -- ] But he's also so worried about people meeting Hierophant, if they'll like him. So when they do, he's...more open. [...] I do like Hierophant, by the way. And Kakyoin. He's a really great guy.
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Kakyoin doesn't need me to protect him. Even if I thought there was going to be a problem, that's something I'd have to take up with him, not go behind his back to settle with you.
Just don't upset him. I can't promise I'll be this calm if you make a mistake and scream something at him like you screamed at me.
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...No matter how kickass those hugs are.
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[She falls quiet while she does a mental review.]
I know everything Gold Experience can do, and I...saw a bunch of that. In the mirrors. Kakyoin and I discussed some strategy stuff, and how Hierophant's always been there. I don't know too much about Sticky Fingers and Sex Pistols, but... I got to see them. Hold them, and stuff. Oh! And there are these new guys in the city that have Stands -- I know what they can do. Haven't tried bringing up the whole "hey, guess what super cool trick you can do for ghosts like me" just yet. I accidentally freaked them out.
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[He stops, glancing toward the otter on his chest, and breathes slowly through a closed mouth for a second or two.]
What did you do?
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You know? It doesn't matter. They totally forgave me already, I think they'd much rather just forget about it.
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So in all the time you've been hunting around gunning for people's Stands, have you ever actually asked anybody what we do with them? You don't really think they're just toys we have for fun and games and cool tricks, do you?
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I'm...not an idiot, Jotaro. Even if Bruno didn't tell me why you shouldn't really show them off, do you really think I could still think that? At least three of you have done some kind of healing. You don't just discover that because it's a toy. I've heard about the kind of people you're up against back home, I've...seen for myself what Gold Experience can do.
...I think it makes them happy, though. To get to use them in a way that doesn't matter, that just...makes someone else happy.
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Fine, I'll say it frankly. You're really damn lucky you didn't meet me the way you're apparently meeting a lot of other people, because from the way it sounds, if you had I would've killed you.
Don't bullshit me with some excuse about how you're already a ghost and try to make light of this. You have no idea what someone's been through, they're in a new and weird and disorienting place for what, a couple days? Maybe a couple of hours? And all of a sudden you're what they have to deal with, and now apparently "accidentally freaking people out" wasn't just a fluke when it was me.
They forgave you already? Probably. I'm not so sure about the forgetting.
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...Fine, so I am an idiot.
[She could also pick apart words and say that she'd said the two would want to forget, not that they had, but... There's no point. He'd just say she was running from the issue again. In fact, just about anything she thinks to follow that up with could be twisted to be that way, so instead her lips just flatten to a thin, frustrated line.]
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[...]
If someone doesn't point out when you're being stupid, how the hell are you ever supposed to know you're being stupid?
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[Like. She knows. She didn't know how to stop doing it, but she knows.]
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So maybe that's what I hand out to other people right back, and that doesn't mean I'm right, either.
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