[When did he get into the habit of greeting Stands like they're people? Probably when he fell in love with Hierophant. Or something.
Anyway.]
No, it's more like...hn. Like I said, I kind of have to cue him sometimes. So.
[He wiggles his fingers, motioning Star over, who comes happily and pushes his head against Jotaro's like an eager dog.]
Okay. So right now I'm...I'm holding myself back, sort of. Trying not to tell him explicitly to do anything. Like he's just a person or a pet or something, not my Stand. And then — Star, look at Polnareff, we like Polnareff.
[And that's how it happens: when Jotaro says look, Star looks, immediately; in the aftermath, though, the absence of an explicit command, we like Polnareff hangs in the air as Star bounds up and kisses Polnareff on both cheeks in an unsettlingly Giorno-like motion.]
He likes Star, is the thing. He's a cool Stand. But he's a Stand, which means it's like thinking your friend's motorcycle is cool. You can appreciate it, but you don't expect it to come up and kiss you on the cheek. But Star does, and it's a damn good thing he doesn't bolt-- he's seen what those fists can do, what usually happens when Star gets close to people.
But it's just a kiss, friendly and far more European than he'd thought Jotaro would ever act.]
--hi. Hello. Did you-- did you do that on your own?
[He addresses Star, just as Giorno did Chariot-- as if he's his own person.]
[It's Jotaro speaking, very overtly; Star doesn't open his mouth or mime the words at all, because he's too busy settling in next to Polnareff on his other side in an imitation of the cuddling that's already going on nearby.]
People have done that to him. He knows that's a response that goes with someone saying something like, "Good boy, I love you, you're the best, you're so wonderful."
[He pauses, tugging the cigarette out of his mouth long enough to motion with it, vaguely.]
So what he just did on his own was — it's like a chain of if-thens. I told him, we like you. "Like" means a feeling. It's a feeling he recognizes, and he knows what you're supposed to do when you feel it. It's not that different to..."danger, so punch", or something like that. Except it's..."like, so that".
A lot of times he doesn't know the "what do I do" part. That's when he'll ask me for help. He doesn't know how to connect between the feeling and the action without me. But that one he does, when you think someone is great you kiss them all over the face. Wild guess who he learned it from.
[Sandwiched between Star and Jotaro, and what a weird position this is. Chariot fades back into Polnareff; he'll experiment with Stand interaction later. For now he wants to learn more about this-- this sentience, and yet not.]
But does he argue? Is there every any pushback, or-- is it just you slowly teaching him?
[He lifts his head, trying to get to see Star's expression.]
I just-- I guess I'm trying to understand if he's his own person or not. The way Giorno talked to Chariot-- it was as if he expected Chariot to sit up and start talking back. Like how kids talk to puppets, you know? It's me controlling Chariot, but he spoke like he expected something independent.
[That isn't a slur on Giorno; far from it. Giorno is far too intelligent to be playing pretend like that, so clearly there is a measure of independence here-- one that Star has that Chariot does not.]
[He says, as Star snuggles in more emphatically like a giant purple Labrador, and not a force of nature.
Jotaro, meanwhile, takes the opportunity to draw an invisible line in the air with his finger, setting up an imaginary continuum from endpoint to endpoint.]
On this end is a Stand like Hermit Purple. It barely has a form, much less intelligence. It's a tool, that's all. All it does is what Jiji tells it to.
[He slides his finger down a little, along that line.]
I think...you might be like Kakyoin. You've had your Stand since birth, so I think...you've never known it not being a part of you, so you treat it like an extension of you. Kakyoin's Hierophant has personality traits, sort of, but he's an extension of Kakyoin. They're one and the same.
[He moves again.]
Star...isn't "me", exactly. But "me" existed for almost eighteen years without him, and when he appeared, I thought he was something else. So I can tell that he's mine, that we're connected, but he's different from me, too. That separation...is why we're the same, but not identical. Why he's not just an extension of me. Maybe it's because I've always defined him as separate from what's "me" that way.
[And again, further, one last time, down to the other endpoint.]
Mista's Sex Pistols are here. They refuse to work if he doesn't feed them, it's like he's babysitting children. He controls them, but they can refuse him, I guess.
Star...he can't refuse. He can't disobey. But I remember when I was fighting Caesar, he didn't understand why I wouldn't let him protect me. So it was sort of like...not arguing. Begging. It was like he was begging me to let him keep me from getting hurt, and I wouldn't let him do it.
...He's mine. He tries to make me happy. So maybe he's developing that way because on some level it's what I want for him.
[Cool, though, and he pats Star on the head, making sure he knows he means that positively. And ooh, that's weird, he's never felt Star's hair before, but it's soft-- so he pats again, scritching a little, like you would with a dog. Good boy.]
You definitely have to have him text me. Oi--!
[Okay, wait, no, he has to do this:]
Star! Want to learn something new? This'll make you both happy-- or it should, anyway.
[Oh. Oh god. Ugh, that feels really good, even filtered back through Star — HE CANNOT SPEAK A WORD OF THIS TO ANYONE, and thus Jotaro becomes very intently focused on something that is pointedly not his Stand or Polnareff's hand, fighting to maintain his cool.]
He's listening. Go ahead, he — um. He likes that, too, just. So you know.
[Okay, so-- he knows, actually, that you can feel whatever a Stand feels, not just pain, because he's not stupid and he's also experimented with it. So. He's not entirely unconscious of what he's doing, nor can he entirely bite back the resulting smirk.
A few more scritches, then, firm and with the nails digging in, whosagoodboy-- and then Polnareff pulls back, turning slightly so he can face Star better.]
Okay-- okay, so this is what we do when we're happy and we want to show it, right?
[Is that good enough for an input? Hopefully, because Polnareff is taking Star's hands, tugging them so they lay palm upwards.]
Okay-- so it starts like that, right? And then--
[Oh, yeah. Star's learning the secret handshake. Polnareff very gently slaps both of Star's hands in the world's gentlest high-five.]
[The petting actually is coming with a very useful side effect here, and that side effect has a lot to do with distracting Jotaro; the byproduct of that is that, because he's paying attention much less to what Star is doing, Star has more freedom accordingly to follow Polnareff and listen to him as he pleases.
So, for the most part, he's very pliable as Polnareff arranges him, clearly not understanding where this is going, but obediently following along as it unfolds.
And then there is a high-five, which is confusing, and so for a few seconds Star just looks at his hands and Polnareff's, unsure of what he's supposed to do and why.
What follows, then, is interesting: very quickly, his eyes drift to Jotaro, who by this point has recovered enough to remember to make the conscious effort not to cue him. So, finding no direction there, Star's attention slides back to Polnareff and his hands, and he hovers there on a moment of indecision before very tentatively deciding to imitate what Polnareff just did, offering an equally light slap of his own.]
...Ora...?
[He continues to look confused, evidently still lacking some of that "bridge" to understanding that Jotaro had been describing before.]
[He'll explain the bridge more-- but first they have to finish the secret high-five. They're slapped back and forth-- next is bumping their fists together. There's actually more to the Super Secret High-Five, but he doesn't want to overwhelm poor Star.
Gently he takes Star's left hand, curling it into a fist, and guides it into a gently bump-- the top of his fist against the bottom of Star's, and then vice-versa.]
Okay! You got that? We do that when we're really happy-- when--
[Mm, how to describe it.]
When you get something on your don't-punch list. Does that make sense?
[Hmmm. Again, Star seems to have to think this over for a minute. Happy is assuredly something he knows, and the Things We Don't Punch are things that are Important. So. This is for good, important things.
It doesn't take much for him to make that connection. Polnareff is a Good Important Thing. Happiness surrounds him.
But, lest he be mistaken for only mimicking what Polnareff's doing without actually processing it, Star lets this unfold, and then hurries over to Jotaro to put out his hands again in implication.
Jotaro is, of course, the nearest and most-best thing. Therefore.]
...Right. You've got it, Star. Good boy.
[He says, going through the motions that Polnareff just demonstrated with his Stand before sending him back, proudly, to check for Polnareff's approval.]
[Oh my god, that is adorable. Polnareff grins, utterly delighted, and offers his hands should Star want to try it again.]
Ahh, bon garçon-- that's good boy in French, Star, because that's what you are. You should show Kakyion your new trick, he knows it already-- he'll be so proud you learned it.
no subject
[When did he get into the habit of greeting Stands like they're people? Probably when he fell in love with Hierophant. Or something.
Anyway.]
No, it's more like...hn. Like I said, I kind of have to cue him sometimes. So.
[He wiggles his fingers, motioning Star over, who comes happily and pushes his head against Jotaro's like an eager dog.]
Okay. So right now I'm...I'm holding myself back, sort of. Trying not to tell him explicitly to do anything. Like he's just a person or a pet or something, not my Stand. And then — Star, look at Polnareff, we like Polnareff.
[And that's how it happens: when Jotaro says look, Star looks, immediately; in the aftermath, though, the absence of an explicit command, we like Polnareff hangs in the air as Star bounds up and kisses Polnareff on both cheeks in an unsettlingly Giorno-like motion.]
no subject
He likes Star, is the thing. He's a cool Stand. But he's a Stand, which means it's like thinking your friend's motorcycle is cool. You can appreciate it, but you don't expect it to come up and kiss you on the cheek. But Star does, and it's a damn good thing he doesn't bolt-- he's seen what those fists can do, what usually happens when Star gets close to people.
But it's just a kiss, friendly and far more European than he'd thought Jotaro would ever act.]
--hi. Hello. Did you-- did you do that on your own?
[He addresses Star, just as Giorno did Chariot-- as if he's his own person.]
no subject
[It's Jotaro speaking, very overtly; Star doesn't open his mouth or mime the words at all, because he's too busy settling in next to Polnareff on his other side in an imitation of the cuddling that's already going on nearby.]
People have done that to him. He knows that's a response that goes with someone saying something like, "Good boy, I love you, you're the best, you're so wonderful."
[He pauses, tugging the cigarette out of his mouth long enough to motion with it, vaguely.]
So what he just did on his own was — it's like a chain of if-thens. I told him, we like you. "Like" means a feeling. It's a feeling he recognizes, and he knows what you're supposed to do when you feel it. It's not that different to..."danger, so punch", or something like that. Except it's..."like, so that".
A lot of times he doesn't know the "what do I do" part. That's when he'll ask me for help. He doesn't know how to connect between the feeling and the action without me. But that one he does, when you think someone is great you kiss them all over the face. Wild guess who he learned it from.
no subject
But does he argue? Is there every any pushback, or-- is it just you slowly teaching him?
[He lifts his head, trying to get to see Star's expression.]
I just-- I guess I'm trying to understand if he's his own person or not. The way Giorno talked to Chariot-- it was as if he expected Chariot to sit up and start talking back. Like how kids talk to puppets, you know? It's me controlling Chariot, but he spoke like he expected something independent.
[That isn't a slur on Giorno; far from it. Giorno is far too intelligent to be playing pretend like that, so clearly there is a measure of independence here-- one that Star has that Chariot does not.]
no subject
[He says, as Star snuggles in more emphatically like a giant purple Labrador, and not a force of nature.
Jotaro, meanwhile, takes the opportunity to draw an invisible line in the air with his finger, setting up an imaginary continuum from endpoint to endpoint.]
On this end is a Stand like Hermit Purple. It barely has a form, much less intelligence. It's a tool, that's all. All it does is what Jiji tells it to.
[He slides his finger down a little, along that line.]
I think...you might be like Kakyoin. You've had your Stand since birth, so I think...you've never known it not being a part of you, so you treat it like an extension of you. Kakyoin's Hierophant has personality traits, sort of, but he's an extension of Kakyoin. They're one and the same.
[He moves again.]
Star...isn't "me", exactly. But "me" existed for almost eighteen years without him, and when he appeared, I thought he was something else. So I can tell that he's mine, that we're connected, but he's different from me, too. That separation...is why we're the same, but not identical. Why he's not just an extension of me. Maybe it's because I've always defined him as separate from what's "me" that way.
[And again, further, one last time, down to the other endpoint.]
Mista's Sex Pistols are here. They refuse to work if he doesn't feed them, it's like he's babysitting children. He controls them, but they can refuse him, I guess.
Star...he can't refuse. He can't disobey. But I remember when I was fighting Caesar, he didn't understand why I wouldn't let him protect me. So it was sort of like...not arguing. Begging. It was like he was begging me to let him keep me from getting hurt, and I wouldn't let him do it.
...He's mine. He tries to make me happy. So maybe he's developing that way because on some level it's what I want for him.
no subject
[Cool, though, and he pats Star on the head, making sure he knows he means that positively. And ooh, that's weird, he's never felt Star's hair before, but it's soft-- so he pats again, scritching a little, like you would with a dog. Good boy.]
You definitely have to have him text me. Oi--!
[Okay, wait, no, he has to do this:]
Star! Want to learn something new? This'll make you both happy-- or it should, anyway.
no subject
He's listening. Go ahead, he — um. He likes that, too, just. So you know.
[NNNNNNNGH so good.]
no subject
[Okay, so-- he knows, actually, that you can feel whatever a Stand feels, not just pain, because he's not stupid and he's also experimented with it. So. He's not entirely unconscious of what he's doing, nor can he entirely bite back the resulting smirk.
A few more scritches, then, firm and with the nails digging in, whosagoodboy-- and then Polnareff pulls back, turning slightly so he can face Star better.]
Okay-- okay, so this is what we do when we're happy and we want to show it, right?
[Is that good enough for an input? Hopefully, because Polnareff is taking Star's hands, tugging them so they lay palm upwards.]
Okay-- so it starts like that, right? And then--
[Oh, yeah. Star's learning the secret handshake. Polnareff very gently slaps both of Star's hands in the world's gentlest high-five.]
That's the first part!
no subject
So, for the most part, he's very pliable as Polnareff arranges him, clearly not understanding where this is going, but obediently following along as it unfolds.
And then there is a high-five, which is confusing, and so for a few seconds Star just looks at his hands and Polnareff's, unsure of what he's supposed to do and why.
What follows, then, is interesting: very quickly, his eyes drift to Jotaro, who by this point has recovered enough to remember to make the conscious effort not to cue him. So, finding no direction there, Star's attention slides back to Polnareff and his hands, and he hovers there on a moment of indecision before very tentatively deciding to imitate what Polnareff just did, offering an equally light slap of his own.]
...Ora...?
[He continues to look confused, evidently still lacking some of that "bridge" to understanding that Jotaro had been describing before.]
no subject
Gently he takes Star's left hand, curling it into a fist, and guides it into a gently bump-- the top of his fist against the bottom of Star's, and then vice-versa.]
Okay! You got that? We do that when we're really happy-- when--
[Mm, how to describe it.]
When you get something on your don't-punch list. Does that make sense?
no subject
It doesn't take much for him to make that connection. Polnareff is a Good Important Thing. Happiness surrounds him.
But, lest he be mistaken for only mimicking what Polnareff's doing without actually processing it, Star lets this unfold, and then hurries over to Jotaro to put out his hands again in implication.
Jotaro is, of course, the nearest and most-best thing. Therefore.]
...Right. You've got it, Star. Good boy.
[He says, going through the motions that Polnareff just demonstrated with his Stand before sending him back, proudly, to check for Polnareff's approval.]
no subject
Ahh, bon garçon-- that's good boy in French, Star, because that's what you are. You should show Kakyion your new trick, he knows it already-- he'll be so proud you learned it.